Brexit Wars 3 Petedancenation: I attended the march as planned, although if I’m honest I found it very middle classed and quite condescending if I’m completely honest. Wasn’t very democratic focused, more or less a show against democracy. My wife and I left feeling we had been somewhat duped. London marathon averages around 41000 runners…for the life of me I couldn’t see how the news are reporting 1m on the March yesterday. I’m more politically homeless now than ever before… Of course none of the above is true. IMHO, SBK
Brexit Wars 3 There has never, never, NEVER been a bigger Parliamentary and civil political mess than this one in modern times. Previous debacles have usually been over foreign adventures such as Suez and the Iraq War. It is a much wider and deeper crisis of division within UK society than even those of the General strike in 1926 or the Miners’ strikes of 1972 and 1984. The component nations of the UK are split four ways. This is the second English Civil War with family members and friends bitterly divided on the EU issue. Business is in total limboland. The government of the country is in a state of complete paralysis. Any status the UK had in world affairs has evaporated. This horrific situation has been entirely brought about by the ideological divisions with in the Tory Party which have been festering away for decades. And the hapless voters have nowhere to turn to given the 1970s recidivist position of the Corbyn and his divided opposition party. A couple of years ago I might have made jokes such as erecting a guillotine for Parliamentarians on College Green. I no longer would do so. The atmosphere is now so poisonous I could almost envisage something like that happening, with all the death threats being bandied about! Biased though I am, as this stupid affair has cost me a huge amount of money and threatens my freedom of movement, I can only see that another Referendum is inevitable. after three years of abject UK Government failure. The next one should be 100% binding and the last one ever on any subject. IMHO, SBK
Brexit Wars 3 frog_in_a_tree: The BBC reported that Margaret Anne Georgiadou said she couldn’t remember posting the “shoot May” stuff on F’book. I think if you had posted messages of that kind you would remember it. In my professional life, failures of memory were the very weakest of denials. Odds on, she did it. Were the threats seriously intended to reach May and put her in fear? I think that is doubtful. As we agree, Margaret Anne Georgiadou’s silliness doesn’t devalue the views expressed by 4.5 million others. Cheers, Frog And this for me sums up the debate and adds to my complete “homelessness” You would not be expressing or be this dismissive if Tommy Robinson had been posting stuff about “shooting may” , This adds to the frustration that’s felt nation wide about the political elite choosing when and where to discriminate. The void in this country will be taken up by the far right and your all adding fuel to the fire imho.
LLOYDS is going to FLY Frog Beware aware of published too good to be true profits. Remember what happened pre PPI and financial crash with regard to bad debts and likelihood of debt recovery. Bad debts excessive charges makes profitability look good if bad debt allowances increase less that these charges. Credit card debts are generally rising in UK and how much of these can be realistically assumed to be eventually paid back. People can rack up debt in the UK and disappear to another country or use the voluntary bankruptcy to avoid paying these debts back. WR
Brexit Wars 3 I attended the march as planned, although if I’m honest I found it very middle classed and quite condescending if I’m completely honest. Wasn’t very democratic focused, more or less a show against democracy. My wife and I left feeling we had been somewhat duped. London marathon averages around 41000 runners…for the life of me I couldn’t see how the news are reporting 1m on the March yesterday. I’m more politically homeless now than ever before…
Brexit Wars 3 What a stupid debate this is. Those 5 Million of us who signed this petition have not done so to support this lady. We signed it because it is the one we saw before us which reflects exactly what we want to see happen: the Revocation of Article 50. Period. Anyone who thinks that it makes any difference who originated this particular petition is allowing themselves to be led by the nose by the corrupt Brexiteer media. IMHO, SBK
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Brexit Wars 3 Eadwig: A ‘computer whizz kid’ hacking someone’s personal account or a commercial server to try to get to the bottom of it … might I just remind everyone that would be a criminal offence - and one that is not taken lightly by the courts anymore. Eadwig, you misunderstand. The ‘computer whizz kid’ would be employed by the lady concerned to investigate the alleged hack (possibly with the help of FB) and give a formal report saying she had been hacked or not. To hack a server for malicious purposes is illegal and the lady concerned should contact the police (IMO) if she really has been hacked.
Brexit Wars 3 The Tory party really is in a stew. There is now open rebellion against Theresa May. The speculation is that David Liddington will take over for a few months just to get the (or a) withdrawal deal agreed. Most people will say “David Liddington, who?”. In my view, ending May’s premiership will not end Brexit Wars in the Tory Party. The splits are simply too deep. Its going to be an interesting week. Cheers, Frog in a tree
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Brexit Wars 3 Just got back from the March many many more than last time all good natured and good fun. Will now have to wait to see what comes back from Mail/farage etc. what will it be Russian bots, only 10,000, Leavers were busy on Jarrow march. etc image.jpg1200x800 582 KB
Brexit Wars 3 I am trying to take a rational and balanced approach Buns. Yes, I know that Guido Fawkes jumped on this story along with the Mail and the rest of the right wing press. And yes, we know that they want to taint the petition. The BBC reported that Margaret Anne Georgiadou saod she couldn’t remember posting the “shoot May” stuff on F’book. In my professional life failure of memory were the very weakest of denials. Odd on, she did it. Were the threats seriously intended to reach May and put her in fear? I think that is doubtful. As we agree, Margaret Anne Georgiadou’s silliness doesn’t devalue the view expressed by 4.5 million others. Cheers, Frog
Brexit Wars 3 frog_in_a_tree: The petition organiser Margaret Anne Georgiadou may have made some ill-judged posts but that doesn’t devalue her petition which has been signed by 4,680,000 people. That’s what I said. Hers was one of many similar petitions but it took off (to her surprise) because it was to the point. You must realize that the Brexit press are just out to discredit this woman - by any means - in a pathetic attempt to somehow take the shine off this record breaking measure of public opinion. I would expect reactions to this ploy from ovines such as vtec and Trisco but the fact that you and others keep commenting on this and the “fiddling” nonsense just goes to show that the forces of reaction are having some success. Get a grip and focus on the the main issue which is to trample Brexit to death. IMHO, SBK
Brexit Wars 3 Agree SBUK, The petition organiser Margaret Anne Georgiadou may have made some ill-judged posts but that doesn’t devalue her petition which has been signed by 4,680,000 people. The number of respondees speaks for itself. The matter needs to be put to a confirmatory post. If Brexiters are so certain they represent “the will of the people” then they should have no fear. Cheers, Frog in a tree
Brexit Wars 3 frog_in_a_tree: Buns, your data is very out of date. To be fair, currently the no deal petition is showing 485,000 votes, near as dammit half a million. More than likely they are all Ruskies! Cheers, In this case it is clear that the votes have been fiddled. This is just the sort of thing those who supported Leave and Trump have been found guilty of before. Leave supporters as a whole are dupes of both the Russians trying to undermine their rivals the EU and rabid Right Wing Yanks who are also seeking to weaken the power of the EU and turn the UK into its vassal state (even more). IMHO, SBK
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