Versarien Live Discussion

GreyCarpet 02 Aug 2019

PM Boris Manchester speech Saturday It’s awash with corruption, and that’s a reason alone for exiting stage left , but alas the EU Groupies will still claim they have not had one genuine reason for leaving, Only the desperate would wish the older members of society dead , shame on the remainer posters that support the disgraceful posts by way of tick ups , ii really need to address this issue before it goes public and gets to a wider audience.

J_Westlock 02 Aug 2019

PM Boris Manchester speech Saturday J_Westlock: Is that it? No answer to: “ So by far, most are not from EU states… so how will leaving the EU help when the UK doesn’t bother… or want… or seemingly need… to control immigration that it currently DOES have control over? “ Still avoiding answering questions when you’ve been found out? Still no answer to: “ So by far, most are not from EU states… so how will leaving the EU help when the UK doesn’t bother… or want… or seemingly need… to control immigration that it currently DOES have control over? “

dkok 02 Aug 2019

PM Boris Manchester speech Saturday FIAT Spanish unemployment rate for under 25’s is 33.09%. Not really a sign of a buoyant economy is it! If you think that the UK has the inside line on iffy politicians, then think again. The number of dubious characters in the EU is as long as both my arms, and is just as bad in the other organisations spawned by the EU. Take Christine Lagarde, In December 2016, a French court found her guilty of negligence relating to her role in the Bernard Tapie arbitration, but did not impose a penalty. Of course it didn’t impose a penalty, because it was too useful to the French Government to have her as the head of the IMF, and now guess what, from November she will be the new President of the European Central Bank. Something wrotten in the state of Denmark methinks! But hey, just be good little Europeans and roll over while we shaft you time and again!

J_Westlock 02 Aug 2019

PM Boris Manchester speech Saturday fynne: Google it … I can’t be arsed The reason I asked… is because I know 100% it is nothing to do with being in the EU… or not. The UK will have precisely the same issues and challenges in dealing with asylum seekers and illegal immigrants whether it is in… or out… of the EU. Fair play… you did say “think” rather than doing what John, Huw and co do by stating fallacies as fact.

frog_in_a_tree 02 Aug 2019

PM Boris Manchester speech Saturday I think you just made it up Fynne and that is why you are unwilling to provide your source evidence. We know from your previous posts that you have a closed mind, that you lack higher qualifications and that you are just too plumb lazy to read to verify the information you post. Pure ignorance. The assist, the law on asylum has been made by the UN. Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states that “Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.” … Rendering true victims of persecution to their persecutor is a violation of a principle called non-refoulement, part of the customary and trucial Law of Nations. That took about two minutes to find that the law on asylum is founded under UN international agreement. The application of the law is for individual states like the UK and Germany to determine. Nothing to do with the EU. Cheers, Frog in a tree

fynne 02 Aug 2019

PM Boris Manchester speech Saturday J_Westlock: Any evidence? Or shall we count this as total bollocks? Google it … I can’t be arsed

J_Westlock 02 Aug 2019

PM Boris Manchester speech Saturday fynne: Also there is a thread for Brexit related posting … Just saying? You can’t stop me posting about our noble PM’s trip to Mancunia.

J_Westlock 02 Aug 2019

PM Boris Manchester speech Saturday fynne: Actually I think the EU sets many of the rules for asylum seekers and non EU migrants resident in the EU. So yes we will have more control when we leave “Think”… what rules does the EU set for those seeking asylum in the UK? And what rules does the EU set for non-EU migrants? Any evidence? Or shall we count this as total bollocks?

fynne 02 Aug 2019

PM Boris Manchester speech Saturday Also there is a thread for Brexit related posting … Just saying?

fynne 02 Aug 2019

PM Boris Manchester speech Saturday J_Westlock: So by far, most are not from EU states… so how will leaving the EU help when the UK doesn’t bother… or want… or seemingly need… to control immigration that it currently DOES have control over? Actually I think the EU sets many of the rules for asylum seekers and non EU migrants resident in the EU. So yes we will have more control when we leave

Sir_Buns-Up_Knealing 02 Aug 2019

PM Boris Manchester speech Saturday frog_in_a_tree: Yes, SBK, The garlic sausage comment was a good example of dkok’s narrow mindedness. It is not, surely, an age thing since most sensible people (JW excepted) have been enjoying garlic sausage for over half a century. Cheers, Frog That comment was a milder version of us “being crushed under the Teutonic jackboot” along with “being ruled by cheese eating surrender monkeys”, etc. IMHO, SBK

frog_in_a_tree 02 Aug 2019

PM Boris Manchester speech Saturday Yes, SBK, The garlic sausage comment was a good example of dkok’s narrow mindedness. It is not, surely, an age thing since most sensible people (JW excepted) have been enjoying garlic sausage for over half a century. Cheers, Frog

J_Westlock 02 Aug 2019

PM Boris Manchester speech Saturday dkok: Time will tell. Hope you like Garlic Sausage matey!!! Wouldn’t touch that personally… sounds an abomination. Is that it? No answer to: “ So by far, most are not from EU states… so how will leaving the EU help when the UK doesn’t bother… or want… or seemingly need… to control immigration that it currently DOES have control over? “

Sir_Buns-Up_Knealing 02 Aug 2019

PM Boris Manchester speech Saturday Versarien: odds on to go bust. Too small a market. Too much debt. Competitors could wipe it out anytime. A good milch cow for the management though, while it lasts. IMHO, SBK

frog_in_a_tree 02 Aug 2019

PM Boris Manchester speech Saturday Even more rubblish from you dkok. Immigration from the EU has largely been self limiting, determined by the availability of work and the euro/sterling exchange rates. It is beyond doubt that we are at full employment with an aging population and that in order to staff our service and industries we need a level of migrant labour. This is why successive government didn’t devote much expenditure to tracking and monitoring EU worker migration. We needed the workers and, as a predominantly young and childless population, they had little call on our health and social services. If in any way they stretched some services it was largely the result of government austerity policies because these migrant workers paid far more in taxes than they took out in services. Best wishes, Frog in a tree