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J_Westlock 01:17

Brexit Wars 3 Certainly Brexit has played a major part in Japanese car manufacturers exiting the UK… and that will continue. However, the Japan-EU trade deal signed a few months ago means that Japanese car manufacturers can repatriate production… which is precisely what will happen over the next decade. Under that trade agreement, the EU has pledged to slash tariffs on cars from 10% to 0% by 2027. The UK has been blindsided by the Japan-EU trade deal… whether the UK could have altered this aspect of the trade deal if it had been represented in those negotiations… who knows.

Eadwig 20 Sep 2019

Brexit Wars 3 petethenovice: more bad brexit news Not really news is it? The Japanese have been perfectly straight-forward and honest. Leave the EU and we are not just gone, but we wont be forgetting that you have reneged on our deal to invest in the UK as our gateway to Europe. Their ambassador and most of the major companies have made it quite plain throughout the process. In the international league table of auto manufacturers Britain will fall behind the likes of Slovakia, Spain and Turkey. Yet even the Johnson government as recently as today said that the UK will remain a car economy in terms of ownership and use of same acknowledging the primary importance of the sector to the country, What a bunch of selfish gits Brexiteers are. And here is the joke of the day … "British trade minister Liz Truss is currently on a visit to Tokyo and has called for a new post-Brexit trade agreement with Japan as soon as possible. “I am in Tokyo today to deliver one very clear message: the UK is ready to trade,” Truss said. “The UK is an open, welcoming country and we are the perfect place to do business.”" If we are in the perfect place, why is she attempting to move us?

frog_in_a_tree 20 Sep 2019

Brexit Wars 3 I see that the Corbyn cabal are trying to depose Tom Watson. There is something rotten at the heart of Labour where an unrepresentative Brexiter group are trying to derail the Remainer influence. They will only further reduce the Labour vote. Frog in a tree

oilovlam 20 Sep 2019

Brexit Wars 3 Trisco: The problem is that what people are often talking about with the left v right at the BBC is socially liberal conservative and/or bigoted views. Clearly the BBC is on the liberal side. Economically (which is what left/right is actually about) I think the BBC is right of centre. And generally I’d say it’s “the right” who moan about the former, while the left moan about the latter. Both are accurate (IMHO), but the left has more ground to stand on as “not being a bigot” is objectively a good thing. So, basically the BEEB get complaints from both the 'left ’ & the ‘right’…which presumably means they must be doing a pretty good job at being impartial. If you annoy both sides in equal measure that’s good, isn’t it? I have seen the same here…Remainers complaining about BBC bias, followed by Brexitters also complaining about the BBC. Makes me laugh. As long as the BBC pisses off both ‘sides’ in equal measure then it’s OK by me…did I tell you that I’m the Director General of the BBC?!..in my spare time.

Trisco 20 Sep 2019

Brexit Wars 3 frog_in_a_tree: Is this an example of what you call the “biased” BBC? The problem is that what people are often talking about with the left v right at the BBC is socially liberal conservative and/or bigoted views. Clearly the BBC is on the liberal side. Economically (which is what left/right is actually about) I think the BBC is right of centre. And generally I’d say it’s “the right” who moan about the former, while the left moan about the latter. Both are accurate (IMHO), but the left has more ground to stand on as “not being a bigot” is objectively a good thing.

J_Westlock 20 Sep 2019

Brexit Wars 3 Maybe you could explain how wanting to leave EU with a deal and then allowing a referendum to confirm the result is convoluted.

J_Westlock 20 Sep 2019

Brexit Wars 3 arsanias: Why is Johnson not honest about it instead of promising a deal? There is no compromise between TMs deal an no deal, thus if it’s not TMs deal, it’s no deal. Yes. Unless they go for a different type of deal that the EU have already said would be much simpler to negotiate… which the Tories are loathe to do.

arsanias 20 Sep 2019

Brexit Wars 3 Good news for the continent. Japanese companies will still try to have access to the EU. They will relocate.

petethenovice 20 Sep 2019

Brexit Wars 3 more bad brexit news U.K. – 20 Sep 19 No-deal Brexit would force Japanese investors to reassess 40-year... Japanese companies and investors would be forced to reassess their four-decade b...

arsanias 20 Sep 2019

Brexit Wars 3 john.a.reeves: OK - no deal then Why is Johnson not honest about it instead of promising a deal? There is no compromise between TMs deal an no deal, thus I it’s not TMs deal, it’s no deal.

oilovlam 20 Sep 2019

Brexit Wars 3 Labour policy on Brexit is straightforward Labour policy on Brexit is convoluted 0 voters

J_Westlock 20 Sep 2019

Brexit Wars 3 Doesn’t do anything to my Friday evening John. I won’t be voting for any of the main Parties discussed here so poll ratings of the various Leaders means zip to me.

john.a.reeves 20 Sep 2019

Brexit Wars 3 JW - good evening quote=“J_Westlock, post:21607, topic:1145436”] I’m not sure why, their current position of the Party hasn’t altered… unlike other Parties; it is to negotiate a deal based on a customs arrangement. [/quote] Thought I’d post this to brighten up your Friday evening m8. Ipsos MORI’s new Political Monitor poll reveals Jeremy Corbyn now has the lowest net satisfaction ratings of any opposition leader since the survey began in 1977. 20 September 2019 Jeremy Corbyn has lowest leadership satisfaction rating for any opposition leader since 1977 Few see Corbyn doing a good job at handling Brexit Labour party supporters strongly in favour of delaying Brexit / holding second referendum Ipsos MORI’s new Political Monitor poll reveals Jeremy Corbyn now has the lowest net satisfaction ratings of any opposition leader since the survey began in 1977. Three quarters of Britons (76%) say they are dissatisfied with the way he is doing his job as leader of the opposition (up 7 points from July) – 16% (down 3 points) say they are satisfied) leaving him a net satisfaction score of -60 (down 10 points). As the Americans say - he couldn’t even be elected as a town dogcatcher! JAR

J_Westlock 20 Sep 2019

Brexit Wars 3 oilovlam: That ‘sort of’ is the policy of the Lib Dems…if they win a majority in a GE they Revoke…otherwise they will pursue a 2nd referendum (‘presumably’ by whatever means at their disposal). The chance of them winning a majority in a GE is quite small (we should be able to agree on that)…so IF they did win a majority in a GE that would be quite extraordinary and ‘presumably’ the electorate would have given them a mandate (under the first past the post voting system) to revoke. Seems straightforward & honest to me…unlike the Labour policy which is convoluted, confusing & ‘possibly’ plain silly (IMO). Seems to me that the Lib Dem policy is convoluted: if they win a majority then they revoke… no matter fact people may have voted who didn’t want to revoke… but should they form a coalition then they drop that and revert to having #BrexitRef2. The Labour policy is clear… its to respect the last referendum and negotiate a deal with a customs arrangement but to have any type of deal confirmed at #BrexitRef2. The advantage of the latter is that it also allows Remain as an option whilst respecting the referendum process thus allowing an effective end to Brexit talk for a decade at the very least.

oilovlam 20 Sep 2019

Brexit Wars 3 petethenovice: They re being attacked by labour and Tories because they are taking votes from both… on this policy… If they get people voting for them…then it must mean that ‘some’ people like the simple ‘nuclear’ option to end this Brexit mess…IF they win a majority in a GE then that’s democracy. Similarly if BoJo won a majority in a GE he would ‘presumably’ see that as a mandate for ‘No’ deal. Swings & roundabouts…or whats good for the goose, is good for the gander.

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