PrefInvestor1
24 Feb 2020
LLOYDS is going to FLY trader_jack: You mention Office Home & Student 2016 , according to the Microsoft page you indicated yesterday mainstream support ends in October this year but extended support goes on until 2025 whatver that might mean in practice for someone like myself. Go here [link] and look at the table and the text which follows it. The important thing for you is that extended support goes on until 2025 so you will receive security updates until then. After 2025 you will likely need to upgrade again. PLEASE DONT BUY YOUR SOFTWARE DIRECT FROM MICROSOFT THEY WILL JUST CHARGE YOU LIST PRICES. GO ON AMAZON DO A SEARCH, CHECK THE SUPPLIER IS REPUTABLE AND BUY AT THE LOWEST PRICE YOU CAN FUND. BUT DO DOWNLOAD YOUR SOFTWARE FROM MICROSOFT AND NOT FROM ANYWHERE ELSE. THAT WAY YOU SHOULD BE GUARANTEED TO GET THE GENUINE ARTICLE. Sorry for shouting but these points are very important. ATB Pref
PrefInvestor1
24 Feb 2020
LLOYDS is going to FLY mememe: so where do you store all your data and surely MS is taking a copy of all you do. Hi Again @mememe, Well OneDrive is a web based file system that’s built into Windows 10 and is available to anyone with a Microsoft account. And Office 365 is just a set of desktop apps with a larger OneDrive maximum space allocation is all. But on my PCs I have sufficient local disk storage to hold all of my data (and some) and that’s where I store all my files. I could store them on my OneDrive space, and certain things I do, it is the default. But most things I store on my local drive space. As for Microsoft keeping a copy of everything that’s just nonsense. What would they do with it all. No I’m not worried about that at all. ATB Pref
mememe
24 Feb 2020
LLOYDS is going to FLY @PrefInvestor1, so where do you store all your data and surely MS is taking a copy of all you do.
trader_jack
24 Feb 2020
LLOYDS is going to FLY PrefInvestor1: Yes @J_Westlock thats certainly true. But I really dont think trader_jack’s spreadsheeting skills are up to doing the job. I am happy to send him a spreadsheet which he can then tailor to do what he wants by adding in his own set of stocks and ITs but if I do that using Office 365 using tables and structured references (as all my spreadsheets do these days) it almost certainly isnt going to work on his Office 2007. If he upgrades his Office though then it ought to work. Hi again, I could not have worded it better myself. Well done Prefinvestor and thanks for explaining my problems with computers better than I have ever done. I am not sure exactly when I will get around to uograding, probably within the next few weeks, then I will have to purchase the latest Excel for Dummies in the hope that it will provide me with some guidance that I can understand. If that does not work I will be very happy indeed to take you up on your very kind offer. I could even send you a copy of the spreadsheet I am currently updating for IT’s Best regards & thanks TJ Best regards TJ
mememe
24 Feb 2020
LLOYDS is going to FLY @ Eadwig, what open-source software do you use? I have Office 2000 mainly for excel never had any problems but as Pref1 says I’m putting myself at risk. I use Veracrypt for all I do. I know very little about these things so appreciate any advice.
PrefInvestor1
24 Feb 2020
LLOYDS is going to FLY mememe: thanks. Aren’t you concerned about putting all your financial information on the Cloud? Hi @mememe, No I’m not concerned about that because I most definitely DONT do that. I dont keep ANY personally sensitive data or anything even vaguely financial on the cloud. I use only a very small portion of my 1TB of available cloud data space. ATB Pref
trader_jack
24 Feb 2020
LLOYDS is going to FLY Hi again Prefinvestor, You mention Office Home & Student 2016 , according to the Microsoft page you indicated yesterday mainstream support ends in October this year but extended support goes on until 2025 whatver that might mean in practice for someone like myself. I have been looking at OfficeHome & Student 2019 as I said I noticed that the offer states "Microsoft support included for 60 days at no extra cost. " but will there be support for it for longer I wonder? The offer does not make it clear at all Regarding Windows 10 which I have, it is version 2.59.0.0 for x64 based systems (KB4023057.) It seems to think that it was installed in June 2019 which is not correct. I bought this computer in late 2016 and Windows 10 was either installed then or perhaps copied across from my previous laptop. I cannot now remember. It has 16g of RAM and about 1TB of hard disk. I use Firefox as my main operating system 73.0.1 (x64 en-GB) Yes there seem to be many variants even on Amazon but hopefully I will choose one that can be actually purchased from Microsoft itself. Thanks to you Prefinvestor, swamp rat & J Westlock for your help and suggestions. At my age I need an easier life not one that gets progressively more technical and complicated. It is not as if the markets are offering any comfort to any of us today. Ah well, Best regards TJ
PrefInvestor1
24 Feb 2020
LLOYDS is going to FLY Eadwig: All the software I needed for my business and personal use was available and perfectly adequate by mid 90s. I’ve paid for new licences over and over again for them/ My last upgrade to Windows 10 wiped out my previous version of Office-like software and I’m not spending anymore. Hi @Eadwig, Well I dont make the rules, but unfortunately if you want stuff you usually have to pay for it. I DO understand people using free open source software to meet their software requirements. I have simply taken a view of our home computing requirements and decided that I AM prepared to pay for Windows (if I buy a new PC), for my internet security software (about £25 a year) and for Office 365. And any Microsoft software I get for about £30 a time so its cheap. I quite understand that others dont have that advantage. For other things (eg photo editing) I too use free open source software. ATB Pref
mememe
24 Feb 2020
LLOYDS is going to FLY @PrefInvestor1, thanks. Aren’t you concerned about putting all your financial information on the Cloud?
skiking37
24 Feb 2020
LLOYDS is going to FLY Down 5% - LLOY that is and NOT Microsoft
PrefInvestor1
24 Feb 2020
LLOYDS is going to FLY mememe: have you tried Office 2019 Home & Student yet. Any issues? I have a Win10 PC . What security do you use? I use Kaspersky Total Security which includes Safe Money. Any advice on what you think may be better. No I havent tried it because I have the full Office 365 paid for via the annual subscription model (I have a relative who works for Microsoft so I get all my Microsoft software cheap). Regarding internet security software - good choice thats what I use too. Tried the Security Cloud product last year but reverted to Total Security this year as it was no better and more expensive. Also licensing was occasionally problematic. ATB Pref
mememe
24 Feb 2020
LLOYDS is going to FLY @PrefInvestor1, have you tried Office 2019 Home & Student yet. Any issues? I have a Win10 PC . What security do you use? I use Kaspersky Total Security which includes Safe Money. Any advice on what you think may be better.
Eadwig
24 Feb 2020
LLOYDS is going to FLY PrefInvestor1: Going with this would give you a more modern set of programs and longer security support but for quite a lot more money. This is what I object to … All the software I needed for my business and personal use was available and perfectly adequate by mid 90s. I’ve paid for new licences over and over again for them/ My last upgrade to Windows 10 wiped out my previous version of Office-like software and I’m not spending anymore. I don’t use it that often and its become a bit of a bad joke that all the upgrades in the new software I not only don’t want and need, they’re making it more difficult to do what I used to. So, I’m sticking with Windows only because I can find perfectly adequate open-source software and other apps in the public domain. I guess I’ll just have to put up with adverts actually appearing on my screen at home plugging various things which is an absolute liberty if you ask me. I might add there are really only a handful of countries that bother to protect copyright. I did a test with my VPN for accessing Pirate Bay, the most notorious of sources for ripped off apps and media. If I set up as being in the UK and a couple of other countries, sure enough the site is blocked. Many other countries, including within the EU, have no blocking I can detect. I very much object to re-paying for licenses, just as I did for tapes and CDs that I already owned on vinyl. It is all a it unsatisfactory… and I say that as a sometimes programmer.
PrefInvestor1
24 Feb 2020
LLOYDS is going to FLY J_Westlock: Why do you think that upgrading and paying more for Excel is going to help you in setting up the formula and automation to pull in prices etc? You are certainly able to do that in Excel 2007 and earlier versions Yes @J_Westlock thats certainly true. But I really dont think trader_jack’s spreadsheeting skills are up to doing the job. I am happy to send him a spreadsheet which he can then tailor to do what he wants by adding in his own set of stocks and ITs but if I do that using Office 365 using tables and structured references (as all my spreadsheets do these days) it almost certainly isnt going to work on his Office 2007. If he upgrades his Office though then it ought to work. Of course I could go back 10 years and start using the old fashioned cell references (AS99 etc.) but then I wouldnt be able to just copy the formulae from what I currently have which works. I could do that of course but it would be tedious AND i couldnt test it on 2007 as I dont have that. So if it doesnt work (which it may not first time) then I dont see how I’m going to get it working on his machine where the whole layout of his Excel will be totally different to mine. Right now he is running an old Office version which may well present him with security risks that he is not equipped to handle either. Spending £30 will get him a new supported version eliminating those risks AND one which should support my spreadsheets. I dont know whether he is going to want to accept a spreadsheet from me - he might see even that as a security risk !. But other than that route I can see no way of producing an automated pricing solution for him. Anyway ATB Pref
Eadwig
24 Feb 2020
LLOYDS is going to FLY john.a.reeves: Not sure it will have any effect. It wont. It would be like having the flu jab and hoping it protect a little bit against AIDS. The one way it might help is if it does protect against flu, then it will protect you from having the new virus and flu at the same time, a combination we’d all like to dodge I’m sure.
