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Kaka 14:58

Brexit Wars Yes, LJ a good way to put it…

regardless 14:01

Lloyds in the 5X's this week? Never used a stop loss, as you say free Markets are now systematically against all private investors but honestly in nearly 10 years of investing in my favourite share, I have sat on paper loses for years , and just merrily topping up from 2010 to 2013, in them days its was the story ‘’ Lloyds is about to be Nationalised by HMG’’ posted 24/7 now traders are posting about scary Brexit BUT I never lost a penny in real cash here with Lloyds like now I wait for one better day…

oilovlam 13:42

Brexit Wars jackdawsson: Allow me to spell out some truths: you appear to have voted Brexit completely ignorant of some well publicised economic uncertainty if Brexit won & a generally anticipated likely initial downturn. Now that some desperate Remainers are trying their best to present a picture of utter economic gloom as being wholly inevitable & you sense that, hang on, Brexit may hurt your pocket, you’ve switched sides completely. What does that tell us about your credibility? jackdawsson: you appear to have voted Brexit completely ignorant of some well publicised economic uncertainty if Brexit won & a generally anticipated likely initial downturn. JD, but that was ‘Project Fear’…or it was described as that by the very people who seem to have a large say in the Brexit negotiating process (JRM & his ERG). So we are being asked to listen to the likes of JRM one minute (because they ‘understand’ how Brexit will unfold) but also to ignore them when they told us that a Brexit downturn was fear mongering. Don’t you think that’s being slightly selective? Didn’t mean to troll you…I use ‘?!?’ and ‘!?!’ quite a lot when I think a standard ‘?’ or ‘!’ doesn’t quite fit the bill. I always think you are a thoughtful contributor on these boards…even on the tricky subject of Brexit. Some of your recent posts have made me think you’ve had a bit of a rethink on the Brexit subject. Perhaps you now think it wont be that bad and could even prove profitable for savvy individuals (no harm in that). Doesn’t mean that we have to ignore that there are dangers for the economy at large though…especially for banks like LLOY. I must admit that I don’t like people who post ‘fake’ news (obviously fake) and then try to justify it. Much as I didn’t like Tony Blair taking us to war with a fairly obviously dodgy dossier. But I still quite Tony Blair…how weird is that

broadmoor1 13:34

Brexit Wars @jackdawsson Your better than this Jack…Don’t get drawn into the trolling.

jackdawsson 13:30

Brexit Wars Sir_Buns-Up_Knealing: But let us take the man of the moment Mogg. His devout Catholicism has been wielded against any liberal motion in Parliament that has come up. It really is a surprise that with his high - falutin values that he backs Johnson who is utterly immoral in so many ways. Most reprehensible in my opinion is his take on abortion. This he opposes, on religious grounds, in ALL cases. So his and his religiosity is not a personal abstract it affects the lives of real people in that he is a lawmaker or would if he had his way. SBK, I don’t disagree with that, but I prefer to keep things in perspective. In the context of this thread, this seems yet another point-scoring exercise. Rees-Mogg & everyone else knows that neither the Tory Party, nor any other UK Party that stands a remote chance of being in government, would ever embrace his more extreme uncompromising Catholicism on any of these issues. That doesn’t preclude him from one day being an effective PM, regardless of my or anyone else’s disagreements with him on said personal religious convictions & a few other issues. - Regards.

BrownAdder 13:27

Lloyds in the 5X's this week? BrownAdder: 70p plus This isnt mean to be a discourteous opinion, but it will come as such, here’s why… LLOY could reach 70p sooner than you expect. At a huge cost of heavily devalued Sterling. Which means selling at 70p target might just break even for you.

BrownAdder 13:22

Lloyds in the 5X's this week? Free Markets are now systematically against all private investors including you and I. The promises of money and millions for individuals are nothing more than deception, for which reason I stick to range. It could be explained by the simplest weight-by-weight arithmetic. Range allows one to pre-calculate a floating profit margin - so then its comfortable to manage expectations. You can further minimise losses by using Trailing Stops. I think Trailing Stops are most undervalued tool. Share holders should use it as much as traders, Automation does help, greatly !

jackdawsson 13:18

Brexit Wars oilovlam: JD, surely you’re joking?!? It’s about ‘fake’ news and the distortion of ‘facts’ to prove a point or support a theory. It goes to the heart of why Brexit is so divisive. Leavers are asking us to trust them but they come up with spurious ‘facts’…even JW tripped up (30 minutes on the naughty step for him/her). Oilovlam, Do me the courtesy of at least sparing me any petty faux outrage with your ?!?. You’ve become as bad as a few others on here for apparent trolling, not to mention frequently misreading others posts. Talk about distortion. Allow me to spell out some truths: you appear to have voted Brexit completely ignorant of some well publicised economic uncertainty if Brexit won & a generally anticipated likely initial downturn. Now that some desperate Remainers are trying their best to present a picture of utter economic gloom as being wholly inevitable & you sense that, hang on, Brexit may hurt your pocket, you’ve switched sides completely. What does that tell us about your credibility? Your increasing use of Trumpisms like “fake news" also seem a bit rich in your case. Especially as going by some of your previous comments (for example, the “Brexit opinion polling” thread), you totally buy into any unsubstantiated government claims made against Russia. You appear to happily forgo requiring any facts whatsoever in selective cases, as suits your position. Perhaps LJ is right to have given up on this circus. - GL.

arsanias 13:10

Brexit Wars jackdawsson: So what relevance is anyone’s Jewishness, or the degree of it? What has any of that to do with the perceived pros & cons of Brexit? No much, only that the misinformation originates from german PEGIDA or from people related to it, which share the post factual mind set of die hard Brexiteers. It’s the same crowd.

arsanias 13:08

Brexit Wars J_Westlock: I’m not even convinced that Herlind Kasner was Polish (I didn’t mention that bit!)… the area of Danzig in 1928 when she was born was controlled by Poland but was mainly made up of Germans It was de jure under control of the League of Nations. In 1923 95% of the population claimed to speak german as mother tongue.

Sir_Buns-Up_Knealing 13:07

Brexit Wars Jack, That particular side issue was kick started by LJ who has now flounced off. At the root of the issue is a right wing campaign to discredit Mrs Merkle with fake news about her “Jewishness” being used in a pejorative way. Personally, I don’t care about anybody’s ethnicity or religious background on a day to day basis. Except: when they say the are “devout” and seek positions of power. That is because I am an atheist and consequently think that anyone who really believes in supreme being nonsense is a little bit bonkers. I know a couple of Druids who are in every other respect quite normal and intelligent. They do spend their weekends visiting the sites of springs and praying to water spirits however. Which is fine but I really would not wish them to be in the Government. Vicar’s daughter, Mrs May is a keen Anglican but she has not let that get in the way of here unchristian actions against immigrants and the poor. But let us take the man of the moment Mogg. His devout Catholicism has been wielded against any liberal motion in Parliament that has come up. It really is a surprise that with his high - falutin values that he backs Johnson who is utterly immoral in so many ways. Most reprehensible in my opinion is his take on abortion. This he opposes, on religious grounds, in ALL cases. So his and his religiosity is not a personal abstract it affects the lives of real people in that he is a lawmaker or would if he had his way. So, let us take a real and not uncommon example: a girl of 14 is violently raped by her uncle or father and becomes pregnant. According to Mogg life is a sacrament which begins at the point of conception. Therefore, if this girl - a victim of violence, rape and incest would be to commit a second wrong. And almost unbelievably in Northern Ireland today a woman who has an abortion there risks a 14 year jail sentence. Now let us say the 14 year old girl has the baby, her life scarred forever, and the baby is most likely to end up in care at great expense to the state and its fairly likely that child would have a difficult childhood and possibly be abused in such “care”. Even more likely by all accounts if it ended up in an establishment run by nuns or priests in Ireland or elsewhere. And yes I know there are child brides and all sorts of savage customs in many places, conducted by other religions, across the world. But I’m talking about the UK here and a politician who many, incredibly, think should become PM of this country. Whereas, I think this weird goon with his abhorrent beliefs should be drummed out of public life along with his DUP gangster chums. IMHO, SBK

regardless 12:53

Lloyds in the 5X's this week? I agree totally Brownadder Over the years, I have been known to jump too early only for the share to hit my original target saying that’s as I see it here , I am having a little pain in the paper loses , for a few months now here, so want a nice reward at the end of the investment / trade as Its all got to be worth it, don’t we all agree

oilovlam 12:21

Brexit Wars jackdawsson: From my side, despite voting Brexit with huge reservations, perhaps I should be at least surprised to find both strong Remainers & Brexiteers here engaged in protracted focus on the degree of any European state leader’s ethnicity. Would it matter at all if said leader was Catholic, Protestant, Islamic or a Buddhist, bar maybe a passing mention of it? So what relevance is anyone’s Jewishness, or the degree of it? What has any of that to do with the perceived pros & cons of Brexit? JD, surely you’re joking?!? It’s about ‘fake’ news and the distortion of ‘facts’ to prove a point or support a theory. It goes to the heart of why Brexit is so divisive. Leavers are asking us to trust them but they come up with spurious ‘facts’…even JW tripped up (30 minutes on the naughty step for him/her).

BrownAdder 12:13

Lloyds in the 5X's this week? regardless: I waiting for 70p plus before I next trade how about a Flexible Range instead of exact/absolute SP figure ?

jackdawsson 12:03

Brexit Wars Sir_Buns-Up_Knealing: It is actually shocking that SBK, From my side, despite voting Brexit with huge reservations, perhaps I should be at least surprised to find both strong Remainers & Brexiteers here engaged in protracted focus on the degree of any European state leader’s ethnicity. Would it matter at all if said leader was Catholic, Protestant, Islamic or a Buddhist, bar maybe a passing mention of it? So what relevance is anyone’s Jewishness? What has any of that to do with the perceived pros & cons of Brexit? But no surprise that levels of hypocrisy exist on all sides. Particularly in those who are often the quickest to cast aspersions at others for the same reasons when it suits them. - Regards.

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