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Ripley94 19 Jun 2019

Market maker, shorter squeeze Well this one is on as a short for you 120 Sara … do you use a stop loss ?

SaraRacano 19 Jun 2019

Market maker, shorter squeeze Some old tricks by market makers, forcing the hand of shorters. Trouble is higher they lift the price the greater attraction for newcomers. If any of you are interested in shorting these are the tricks you must expect. The higher it goes the more burnt shorter get, it´s only a trick, the downward trend is still going to continue.

Ripley94 19 Jun 2019

Kier strategy What are the true " risks " you might be kind enough to share with us.

SaraRacano 18 Jun 2019

Kier strategy There are probably relatively few retail “investors” in these stocks, the individual stockholders are there because of their pension funds. Pension funds take bigger risks but they spread the risks around. When you “invest” in corporate bonds you really start to understand true risk!

Ripley94 18 Jun 2019

Kier strategy Thank you Sara respect for those six. The 51% well why do people put there money in shares? Why don’t you put your money in bonds?

SaraRacano 18 Jun 2019

Kier strategy "No idea of what you do who you are or what you are up to." It´s always the secrets that make you more interesting! I will give you 6 shorts & see how close I come to the famous 51%+ mark. Although I don´t expect fireworks until mid/late August. Shell 2553p Tesco 235p Barclays 152p WH Smith 1953p Barratt 564p Kier 120p

Ripley94 18 Jun 2019

Kier strategy No idea of what you do who you are or what you are up to. why not state what you would do even if a fantasy then we could judge your actions. I and others might then see how good you might be at calling markets .

SaraRacano 18 Jun 2019

Kier strategy It´s all about timing! You might find a bit of a rally goes on here at kier to short squeeze. If you get your timing right you could very easily become very rich with these markets. These markets are screaming to short. But there aren´t that many shorters out there at present this is what happens at top end market ranges, the market just gets wild & illogical. The likes of Kier & Carillion are just example plays. There are plenty of other Carillions out there that will get over come with their debt. Many of these FTSE 100 are seriously over-leveraged. I am sure there are many shorters out there just awaiting their chance! Who says I am not in the market shorting?

Ripley94 18 Jun 2019

Kier strategy Why don’t you short on a spread bet Sara ? Easy money for you, and free of tax .

SaraRacano 18 Jun 2019

Kier strategy This one is going bust, it´s in deep financial trouble & the UK hasn´t even entered recession! It´s burning cash like there is no tomorrow!

stutes 18 Jun 2019

Kier strategy Kier in reducing its net debt surely needs to build up its cash position so as to provide the working capital for the core units. From yesterday’s announcement relating to 1200 redundancies I suggest the company is also shrinking the core businesses. Overall K is going back to its roots. The diversification seems to have failed to create value , while increasing debt thhst in turn is being reduced by the sale of homes and property, dividend suspended 1200 redundancies

SaraRacano 18 Jun 2019

Caution needed This share could have some wild fluctuations as it is heavily shorted, it could go either way with market makers short squeezing the price. Not a surprise it is up 5%+ today but the trend is a very much a downward, bearish one. This is where you make your money with shorted stocks, with the short squeezes. These market makers can be sharks.

SaraRacano 18 Jun 2019

Ominous signs Was not Andrew Davies, the man who almost took charge of Carillion before its collapse? He is doing a pretty good at, Kier!

SaraRacano 17 Jun 2019

In reducing debt core turnover likely to fall Are you having a laugh? I think there is a long hard way to go before debt is eliminated. Banks can fund SR, MR cash flows, nothing unusual there. Come on guys let´s keep comments sane. Some of this is getting slapstick. Keir´s net debt was a good deal higher than analysts had expected, coming in at an average of £420m to £450m, versus market’s expectations for £360m.

stutes 17 Jun 2019

In reducing debt core turnover likely to fall If debt is reduced or eliminated - how’s the working capital funded - surely business needs shrink hence today’s announcement of 1200 redundancies?