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tomasccc52 10:13

Thoughts on Future Market Cap I really need to forget about this whole thing however…If Thornton Ross/STADA has the rights to TPR then they already know the components in DermaSys. I wonder if they are, as we speak working to see if there is actually a component in DSys that increases NO. If there is, could the percentage of that component be increased to gain additional efficacy as an ED treatment? Is Futura doing any such lab work? STADA could so easily buy FUM with pocket change right now. Maybe we buy some STADA??..hell idk… May as well laugh I guess. What a disaster.

Aberdeen_investor 10:05

Thoughts on Future Market Cap TPR ? Buy it and use it for other things I would imagine. They changed the design of phase 3 and were more specific on how it should be applied. Also the timelines for usage were much longer this time round which may have had a bearing of the “increased efficacy” However it begs the question, what was the placebo used for phase 2 then? And why were we shown studies which showed as the GTN was increased the blood flow also increased? There are just too many questions and I’m not sure even FUM have the answers. One reason for using dermasys could have been to ensure the gel retained the same texture etc, but that should have been done for phase 2 too. All in all, too many unanswered questions. The funding was stated as depending on the strength of the results so not sure what’s happening there too. Maybe it’ll make some money one day but I’ve lost too much sleep over this in the past and find it absolutely bewildering that no one in the company checked on this in all these years gone by.

Pharmatom 11 Dec 2019

Thoughts on Future Market Cap Thanks Mark…as stated before I was lucky to have made the big money during the past 11 months (before the readout). My confidence in the BoD was not that high that I dared to risk 75k € of my savings after a 300% run. 14 p average buying price. I had only 25k shares left. Still very disappointed about this outcome. Wish I was mad for missing a 100k profit instead of being mad about this 21st possible outcome!!! However, maybe not everything is lost. Asking myself what Lombard, T. Adams etc. are thinking about their position right now? RNS’s to come or will they stay in?

tomasccc52 11 Dec 2019

Thoughts on Future Market Cap Tony, Do you think they used 5mg Cialis daily for comparison because the Viagra data is outdated as Ken James stated or because Cialis daily is the weakest pde5? There is a 2.5 dose they could have used but maybe they thought that would be pushing it. Nice post Mark so different than the other boards where some seem to delight in the misfortunes of others.

TonyDeadeye 11 Dec 2019

Thoughts on Future Market Cap markthemango1: The other thing that is really annoying is the 20 outcomes they did and that only one lead to failing, that was just such rubbish. Exactly, Mark, and I’m sure much of the other claims from FUM are also rubbish, the latest being how wonderful dermasys is. “Surprising”? Really? After so many years research? Wouldn’t trust this lot as far as I could throw them. tomasccc - I bet TPR is also a failure, another hyped up bag of pig plop which has been put back 6 months - a year to answer questions from the MHRA? Deary me. Will be interesting to see if they manage to rope in any IIs for a fund raise - you can bet they’ll scrutinise FUM very carefully. I’m just passing on a word of warning to all other investors, being a seasoned long term FUM shareholder (now ex) and all the bull I’ve read in past RNSs and email responses. Be very careful.

markthemango1 11 Dec 2019

Thoughts on Future Market Cap All I can say really is that I got lucky to get out when I did, for me it just wasn’t worth the risk again especially after going through it the year before but it could’ve easily gone the other way. The other thing that is really annoying is the 20 outcomes they did and that only one lead to failing, that was just such rubbish. Anyway all I can say is I wish all the best to all the long term posters, especially Tony, Aberdeen, FX, Trump, Zero, Pharmatom and anyone else I’ve forgotten. Some of the discussions and information on here were so helpful and a lot on here deserved a lot more. I’ll be watching this closely as I can’t help it but as Tomasccc has just said there’s far too many questions unanswered yet and I don’t know if Futura will be ever capable of answering then. Good luck in the future everyone!

tomasccc52 11 Dec 2019

Thoughts on Future Market Cap Many questions. Why were all the heart patients supposedly spraying GTN on it? All in their head too I guess? What does this mean for approval of TPR? If TPR is approved will it fly off the shelves as word gets around that it has this effect? Does it really have an effect? Where was the effect in ph 2? And of course as mentioned by so many, why would anybody use a chemical compound as placebo? Ky jelly too expensive maybe? There could have been a subgroup using DermaSys alone to separate adverse events such as burning from GTN-DermSys. I think the DermaSys placebo was done as a safety net so they had a route to take if results sucked.

tomasccc52 10 Dec 2019

Thoughts on Future Market Cap I would love to know how many open label participants have thrown the s##t in the trash by now. They likely signed up because they thought they had surely been on placebo since it didnt work. Now they no none of it does. Martin likely tried it and as a young man decided not to take part and tarnish his reputation. Other old dudes grabbing what they can before fading away.

TonyDeadeye 10 Dec 2019

Thoughts on Future Market Cap It’s a shame it’s come to this. Feel for those who’ve been caught out but mightily relieved I got out when I did. Alarm bells started to ring for me as far back as February 2018 when Derek Martin resigned at a relatively young age. Directors simply do not quit “apparent” multibaggers like FUM especially when they’re sitting on hundreds of thousands of “cheap” share options. That didn’t make sense. Then alarm bell number 2 came with the September 2018 “business update”. After many months of “strong” negotiations where there was talk of a mega deal involving punchy numbers all of a sudden the management thought it was best to go it alone even if it meant causing a 70% dilution. Barder also withdrew from answering emails, All that didn’t make sense. Alarm bell number 3. Reading the accounts filed at Companies House showing the directors had paid themselves massive bonuses which coincidently seemed to cover their own share placing involvement, but IMO misleading shareholders into thinking they were really dipping into their own pockets (ie their own salaries and not an unwarranted huge bonus). Alarm bell 4 - the interims released last September. TPR knocked back 6 months and again misleading financial highlights regarding the cash position - mentioning the post period tax credit but not the £3.5 million trade payables. Very naughty that was. That was the last straw for me. I’ll never trust Barder again, and I’ve no idea what Hildreth has brought to the table. Only taken a lot off it, including that £40k bonus (whatever for?). The Market has been suggesting no “strong discussions” for some months now, and it does make one wonder if the placebo issue was unearthed in the due diligence carried out by 3rd parties last year. Good luck to all those who trust this lot. Looks like another very long road ahead and I cannot see a fund raise (which appears inevitable) getting much, if any, support. Surprised this bounced up from single digits, maybe very oversold in the morning. But my own valuation is based purely on hope driven by IMO a very untrustworthy incompetent management - £5 million tops (2.5p per share) and that’s only because it might be worth trading on the ramps.

Helloclouds 10 Dec 2019

Thoughts on Future Market Cap I’ve been in FUM for over 5 years now, it’s the only stock I hold that I still regard as a punt. I topped up today at 10 and 13 and now have just under 290K shares. I’m underwater until / if we get back to low 20s. I’m not sure we have to research " how it works " if we can prove that it does work , with lower side effect profile. In the webcast they discussed option of licencing as a medical device which they believe they already have cleared all of the hurdles required in the US. They’ve got a couple of good KOL quotes on the results from HCPs in the ED field so I think they still have a viable product. Agreed, that the possibility of further dilution is a worry but I’d already written off this chunk of my portfolio as a possible total loss but everything else I hold is pretty dull with nothing like the potential upside…

Aberdeen_investor 10 Dec 2019

Thoughts on Future Market Cap well what I don’t understand is this… Trials were conducted on MED at low concentrations of GTN… It was widely stated that no increase in blood flow was observed (using dermasys) at very low concentrations of GTN………………however we are then told as the GTN levels were increased blood flow increased significantly at the 0.2%. Therefore leading to the hypothesis that it was indeed GTN that was increasing blood flow since the constant in all of this was the dermasys and only variable was the GTN concentration. How can it therefore be Dermasys alone now, that achieves the increased blood flow. Were those earlier trials flawed then in some way? We don’t know the full story and it’s absolute bonkers.

fx2452 10 Dec 2019

Thoughts on Future Market Cap 31.5 million shares traded today (a touch up on the average volume of the past few weeks!). Damn shame this volume wasn’t after good news.

trump53 10 Dec 2019

Thoughts on Future Market Cap FUM now find themselves in possession of compelling results from a phase 3 study, - for the placebo. Regulators will tell Ken they like the work done, but they will need to know exactly how the placebo achieves these outcomes. The webcast is weak on this subject (unsurprisingly), so I won’t be surprised if Futura do not approach the regulators until they have a story to tell them: How Placebo satisfies the outcomes. How the train of events with the PK, Phase2 and Phase3 studies combined to hide the real ‘active’ until after phase 3 closed, (bar the ongoing 6 month / 1 yr safety study). I would like to see the company state what differences in placebo there were for the 3 studies mentioned, and the reasons for any changes. I would like to see exactly what has been patented yesterday. I don’t think many posters here can kick themselves too hard about their actions, after was has been revealed today, In the RNS, which caused maximum confusion, - and people quickly start selling when that happens. In the presentation with all its surprises.

tomasccc52 10 Dec 2019

Thoughts on Future Market Cap I agree with all that. Every time I had doubts I would tell myself that Ken James and Barder and everyone else in their circle have experimented with this stuff for years and surely know it works or they wouldn’t have jumped through all these hoops for all these years. So many things make no sense. Oh well I was swinging for the fence for my grandkids education and struck out. Education costs some serious money over here.

Aberdeen_investor 10 Dec 2019

Thoughts on Future Market Cap All I know is I feel like I’ve been kicked in the balls several times. I have still not got over the dilution that we faced last time and my balls have barely recovered only for them to be kicked again. I’m not sure what to make of all this. They can be kicked again and I wouldn’t feel a thing as they are so swollen I can’t even sit down right now. I just cannot understand how MED could have been used for this long and no one thought of carrying out a trial beforehand with just the dermasys as Placebo. It would have saved years and years of pain. I spent a whole bloody weekend phoning up pharmacies in Saudi Arabia asking for the Super Manex Condoms only to be told they were out of stock but yet, we had shipped stock so God knows where that stock went. After being a share holder for so long and such a supporter I can truly feel the pain of other long term share holders and feel the pain of Tony too. I’ll watch from the sidelines now but I seriously wish every share holder good luck! I’ve taken a heavy loss today however life goes on. Might venture back in but there is too much uncertainty for me at the moment.

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