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philwad 03:44 |
Lead Engineers Electrical, Mechanical, Planning and Process.[link] philwad |
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Kleinian 19 May |
Re: Kleinian Explained! The Rationalist - a most excellent post that needed to be written. Maybe I can add something to it?Religion is a very odd business and the human animal did seem to need it just to help him/her cope. Some religions had lots of Gods - the Romans for one. Janus was the two faced God of the door looking inwards and outwards from which we derive the words 'janitor' and 'January'. They even had a shrine on the Appian Way to the 'Unknown God' just in case they had forgotten one. If something went wrong then you had to intercede with the appropriate God. God slowly became unitary and was held to be responsible for everything and life got a bit easier.Christianity has one God and a book - the Bible. The King James Bible was an incredible book and the basis for much of modern English but the contents were dodgy. The Old Testament can really just be thrown away. It seems to be a collection of fables heavily larded with mythology. The New Testament isn't too bad and the Gospels can be useful and especially the Gospel according to Matthew. It offers a prescription for how life can be lived but as knowledge and science has developed religion is less necessary and will probably be self-eliminating as the insanities of religion are recognised. 40 years has been suggested before religions disappear entirely.A real problem, noted by Steven Weinberg, is that all religions seem to get hijacked by mad characters and rapidly descend into the pits and allow the Church to commit atrocities quite beyond belief. Burnings and hangings were not uncommon in the Church of England and Roman Catholicism was even worse. They would boil dissidents in oil and announced that they took 15 minutes to die. The Inquisition could extend victims 6" on the rack. Galileo was shown these instruments of torture and had to prove to the Inquisition that he was wrong about the earth orbiting the sun. Not easy because he was quite correct and the Inquisition were not stupid. They finally allowed him to retire into house arrest and told him to keep his mouth shut. Recently they have slightly modified this view!Islam may be a harder nut to crack. They have a book - the Koran - and it isn't that bad a text but what has happened to Islam in modern times is quite incredible and the mad Mullahs are responsible. Their translations of the Koran do it no justice. Women are treated appallingly and even stoned to death for absolutely nothing abnormal. It is all to do with sex, of course. Pat Condell says that Muslims are born with a Koran in one hand and a dick in the other hand. The great confrontation is yet to come between Islam and Westernised Christianity/philosophy. It is difficult for any reasonable, intellectual person to believe in religion in these modern times but look at America! Anyone wanting to be President must come to terms with the Bible belt and that is not easy and some American Presidents have been less than sensible or even intelligent. A Sarah Palin could get elected!What else can one say? The days of religion have gone but what do we have that replaces it? Maybe philosophy but that is not available to the average person and for them religion is an easier wicket. Ah well! Que sera, sera. Kleinian |
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Zen1 19 May |
Re: O/T TOTALLY Good evening Andy....I can tell you are making the most of life and good luck to you...Having and beating an illness can really focus the mind on what's really important.....thankfully it was found early and treated in time......We tend to take so much for granted in life but of course it's just human nature to do so..... maybe we shouldn't blame ourselves too much.........: )Regarding TT....I guess you have seen this site...[link]-thighs-central-park-arrest-1974.htmlEnjoy the rest of the weekend....I'm sure you will....: )Zen1... Zen1 |
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Kleinian 19 May |
Re: O/T TOTALLY Excellent posts on the PSA test. Well done andyb28m and Cobaltblue.I am 78 and I do suspect that I will die with prostate cancer and not of it - that would seem to be the general view when you are only 6 on the Gleason scale. I suppose one has to die of something but I am hoping to delay the process as long as possible! Kleinian |
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Colbaltblue 19 May |
Re: O/T TOTALLY andyb28m, an excellent intelligent post.I'm assuming that the cancer you beat was prostate?I agree about the PSA test. I'm 60 and had a general screening in March 2011 with a level of 1.1. My GP surgery will not now do a test as part of a "Wellman" annual check up unless there are other symptoms of a problem with the prostate. The reason being as you outlined so well. If a man has signs of a problem, the first thing a Doctor will do is get out the gloves and the WD40 and then take it from there! Colbaltblue |
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Griffard32 19 May |
Re: DSS Questions Top man Phil,Thanks for this - look forward to seeing a summary of the response.cheersG32 Griffard32 |
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andyb28m 19 May |
Re: O/T TOTALLY Apologies for being garbled towards the end. Wine not THAT strong. Potatoes were boiling over so I pressed send without checking! andyb28m |
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andyb28m 19 May |
Re: O/T TOTALLY A series of O/T week-end posts relating to various recent stuff.Kleinian and PSA. Sorry to hear your elevated PSA score and the Gleasons.. It's always difficult to get a true handle on posters here if you have not met them, but I have placed Kleinian as being in his 9th decade(??!!) If so, then I would expect that Mr K (like most men in the Western World) will die WITH prostate cancer and not OF it. We will all die, Quite how, we have yet to discover.The PSA test is a tricky one. It is the most widely available but it is not accurate. It gives false positives (suggesting you have cancer when you don't) and - more worryingly - false negatives, that is, a low PSA count when you are actually cooking up the virulent version of prostate cancer that will leave you dead within a year or so. Longitudinal research in the US and Europe now suggests (perhaps surprisingly) that widespread PSA testing (looking for the prostate specific antigen - a score above 4 being cause for concern) actually does NOT save lives. Even more worryingly research into prostate and breast cancer (very similar rates of detection and mortality in the Western World) suggests that a significant percentage of those treated for their cancer - and all treatments to date are incredibly invasive - need NOT have been treated, as the patient would not have died from their cancer. Just like Kleinian probably will not. So all in all whether you go for PSA testing or not is a complex and uncertain issue.I'm pretty well informed on this subject as on 17 June I will pass my 3rd anniversary of surviving cancer surgery. I felt normal and healthy before the extremely fluke detection. I feel normal and healthy now. The last thing I want is sympathy or to be viewed in any way differently from how I was viewed anyway. Surgery is very invasive. But yes I pee normally and still love to make love. Life for me is good and having survived the last 3 years, life feels much more like a gift than it did previously. If anyone wants any advice on this subject I would be glad to discuss away from this board. Leave me a throwaway address.SaltyJim. Sorry to hear you are out of work, for now. I hope the set-back will be viewed in the fullness of time as an opportunity. I was made redundant (what a horrible word!) from Morgan Sindall about 13 year ago when I was a contracts manager for the restoration department of listed buildings, churches etc. I was incredibly hurt and angry for a week or two. Then I moved on. Opportunities suddenly became apparent and I now even invest in Morgan Sindall from time to time because they gave me the key to improve my life. Also - I am still fully in with XTR. I don't post on the board as I have no time for pushing water uphill. If my heads up has hurt your pocket, I am truly sorry. I am sticking with it as it is money I can afford to (but do not wish to) lose. They still hold lots of potentially interesting assets.Zen. I had a memorable evening the night before last celebrating the birthday of a thunder-thighed lady. Although a Cambridge housewife for near-on 40 years she still rocks. And I woke to a sore head to prove it. She regaled us with tales of being on tour in America with Led Zep and visiting the family home of Nick Drake (5 leaves left). She is recently inot some pretty tasty funds again as she was contacted last yearby Eminem last year who used he co-written song as the basis for his recent Cold Wind Blows. She wrote it about 40 years ago and it disappeared without trace intil recently. Funny World.Did we mention Sirius? Course we did. 45. It is written. Love Andy - just back from the land. Eating potatoes and cherries (already) and drinking red red and very strong wine. Life is a gift. So enjoy it damn you! andyb28m |
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philwad 19 May |
O/T Cardiologist and Motorcycle MechanicA motorcycle mechanic was removing a cylinder head from the motor of a BMW M3 when he spotted a well-known cardiologist in his shop.The cardiologist was there waiting for the service manager to come and take a look at his car when the mechanic shouted across the garage, "Hey Doc, want to take a look at this?" The cardiologist, a bit surprised walked over to where the mechanic was working on the motorcycle.The mechanic straightened up, wiped his hands on a rag and asked, "So Doc, look at this engine. I opened its heart, took the valves out, repaired or replaced anything damaged, and then put everything back in, and when I finished, it worked just like new. So how is that I make $24,000 a year and you make $1.7M when you and I are doing basically the same work?"The cardiologist paused, leaned over, and then whispered to the mechanic....."Try doing it with the engine running."Kleinian, despite being in my virtual bin I hope your situation improves as I'm sure it's awful to hear that you have the C word. Sorry for not acknowledging earlier, I thought people were juat responding to your normal posts. philwad |
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zoso 75 19 May |
Re: Kleinian No Quarter, snap, I was tested via PSA for the first time this year, although I've had errr digital examinations before if you get my drift!Hopefully it will be a while before I close the door and put out the light......Kleinian, good luck to you, always enjoyed your posts on here. zoso 75 |
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hezhogg 19 May |
Re: DSS Questions Thanks Phil for all your efforts! I haven't been spending much time reading the BB due to moving house and the excess noise on here recently. Still holding all my shares and very happy with the progression of the company in strategic and material terms. A tad disappointed in the SP, but in the long term it should not make a jot of difference.ATB, Hez hezhogg |
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No Quarter 19 May |
Re: Kleinian Good info.I'm 51 now and get PSA tested once a year - last 2 results were 0.4 and 0.6 so looking OK so far.Best wishes,Mike No Quarter |
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Mandelsputin 19 May |
Re: Kleinian Explained! Mandel - The Nobel Laureate Steven Weinberg said "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evilthat takes religion." He was correct in every way. Western religion is now in decay and churches are being closed down and even demolished because they have no congregations. The Roman Catholics are still around but their record on child sexual abuse is absolutely appalling and runs to many hundreds of thousands of cases all over the world. The Pope is now touring around trying to apologise and buy them off. The assets of the RC church should be realised and given to the poor kids who have been abused and then the Vatican should be closed down. Over the years, as a Child Psychologist, I have seen many cases of CSA committed by RC priests and the damage they do to the children doesn't bear thinking about.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Listen to the linked message then come back with your arguments. Or is your mind closed to all but Dawkins' message of nihilism and despair?Mandelsputin@hotmail.co.uk Mandelsputin |
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delderfield 19 May |
reg/VV thank you for info |
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Dogdoginthenog... 19 May |
Re: Kleinian Explained! You will note I just ticked up Kleinians post! I saw his comment on share price and immediately took him off ignore. Firstly my sympathies for your troubles Kleinian and I hope you scale that "most testing" of humanities mountains successfully. In addition I have to wholeheartedly backup your comments about religion and particularly about the Vatican. I will add that if you shared its wealth to the poor children of the world, they would all be very rich and still plenty left over! As far as the RCC is concerned, they are in choppy waters only at the moment. With sentiment hardening and the greed and desperation of its previously subject countries, I believe a real "Storm" is coming! Dogdoginthenogin |
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Dogdoginthenog... 19 May |
Re: P 4/5 To quote a fan about the P4/5 Sirius Billboard as it stamps it's mark in history....How do I love thee? Let me count the ways. I love thee to the carousel and airfield and brünnchen My KERS can reach, when feeling out of power For the ends of Straights and ideal Grip. I love thee to the level of every racer's Most quiet need, by rev and dashboard-light. I love thee freely, as men strive for top times; I love thee purely, as they turn from kink to Lauda link. I love thee with a passion put to use In my old grease, and with my childhood's motor. I love thee with a love I seemed to lose With my lost seconds, --- I love thee with the octane, sparkplugs, cams, of all my life! --- and, if Glickenhaus choose, I shall but love thee better after death..............There's nowt like the love of the Tifosi! Dogdoginthenogin |
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TheRationalist 19 May |
Re: Kleinian Explained! Agreed, Kleinian. The demise of western religion has liberated humanity in those countries fortunate enough to have experienced it. When it had authority, the Christian church behaved like every other priesthood in history. That is to say it oppressed, tortured and destroyed those who dared to think. The Italian renaissance was ended with the persecution of Galileo. The countries free of the Catholic church then picked up the ball and never looked back. Our moderate Christianity in contemporary Britain is nothing but an expression of weakness. One does not have to go very far back to see the Church of England acting in ways similar to the Islamic priesthood. It would do so again if it could, which is why we must remain vigilant. Look, for example, at the trivialisation of political debate in the US, for an example of the way religion debases everything. The last bastions of religious indoctrination in the UK are the 'faith' schools. If any devious god wished to sow disharmony and conflict into the future of a nation then he could do no better than invent these abominations.And, of course, without the collapse of religion, there would be no science, as evidenced by the appalling lack of progress in the Islamic world over the last 1200 years. This was the region in which profound intellectual development had occurred following the fall of Rome. The rise of Islam put paid to that, just as the Italian church destroyed Galileo. Are the people of the middle East less intelligent than those in the west? Or are they shackled by a stifling ideology?Without science there would be no proper chemistry. And without chemistry, the benefits of potash would not be understood, nor could it be properly extracted and refined. We therefore have the much abused pioneers of humanism, Darwin, Huxley and so on, to thank for our wonderful investment here. TRDesperately trying to turn an O/T rant into something SXX. TheRationalist |
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VincentVega 19 May |
delderfield 1971 - JORC formed 1971 to 1985 - JORC guidelines on classification and reporting 1980 - “Circular 831, Principles of a Resource/Reserve Classification of Minerals”, by US Bureau of Mines and US Geological Survey 1989 - First edition of JORC Code 1994 - First meeting of “Mineral Resources and Reserves International Definitions Working Group” (CMMI Group, now CRIRSCO) 1997/98 – CRIRSCO agreement, and CRIRSCO/United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UN-ECE) agreement. Result in virtually uniform international definitions for Mineral Resource and Reserves 2000 to 2003 – Virtually identical reporting codes and guidelines adopted by South Africa, Canada, USA (SME), UK/Western European Countries, Chile and Peru, all based on 1999 JORC Code 2004 – Release of 2004 JORC Code |
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reg. 19 May |
delderfield You're almost correct, although the JORC is the Australian standard, which SXX will use for YP. Different countries use different resource reporting standards. They are all very similar, all about building a trustworthy estimate that can be booked as reserve and capital can be raised against. |
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delderfield 19 May |
JORC Canada, Australia and South Africa appear to have their own JORC codes. Does any one know which will apply to Sirius and does it matter? |





