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renardargent...
15:30

Re: Pemax: game changing news ? th; It's PEMEX of course ( Petroleos Mexicanos ) and I have some experience of that organisation. When the boss of their major production unit comes down to have a beer with his people on a Friday at the beach restaurant and breaks into a dolorous song accompanied by the local Mariachi band you know that basically this is a 'good' outfit.Not an efficient outfit... just a good one. Expect nothing to change quickly.

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Jimbop
11:37

RE: Great to see... adoubleuk, I'm long. Dont be too envious i started with a very small holding which Ive added too mostly before Sept last year, so I have no complaints. I am in the process of selling my house at the moment so am very happy to see downwards proce movement as a good slice of that equity will be moved to QFI stock. So needless to say I still concider this a bargin price.Alas I dont have a dog to mortgage... Thanks for the pointer, Im a member of the 'real', joining when B1000 set it up, but as I say have been out of the loop for a bit. I shall have a scout for update you mentioned. Totally agree, the plan is to hold for 3+ more years, as mine is then the day to day is irrelivent save prioviding top up opportunity. Just sit back and either forget about it or watch quietly from the side lines. I look forward to meeting the 'resolute' at regular events in future as we drift up though each £1... Jim Ps Feel free to PM me any other "once-in-a-lifetime things".

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adoubleuk
11:11

RE: Great to see... jim, I really envy you having got in three years ago! I didn't have that luck, and only heard the word late last year, but I reckon it's still a bargain stock right now for topping-up. One of the once-in-a-lifetime things, like IBM, or... no, I don't think I'll mention the other, 'cos it's still growing. My advice: get onto the 'real' site, and download Bogg1e's update. She Who Must Be Obeyed read through it last night, and has finally understood why I want to mortgage the dog. Ignore the whittering of the daytraders on here, who are just wage-slaves, worrying about one or two pence difference. See you at the one-quid party! (And the subequent two quid event.) If you're a long

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ArgyllEagle
11:08

RE: Cyberbub Why would Exxon not be interested in QFI? Your argument doesn't make any sense to me?

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Jimbop
10:25

Great to see... …that I’m not the only one quietly holding onto my QFI stock. Been out of the UK or a while so not been keeping my finger on the pulse, I’m not a regular poster at the best of times. Looking back that the past year it’s been a remarkable 12 months, sea trials and POC and with LONO and commercialisation underway. Fantastic. Is Exxon the GOM in the wings? Well, I look at it like this; HDME50 is certainly an income stream for Exxon and as Cyberhub rightly point out shippers are highly likely to load HDME50 for costal ECA areas and HFO for the rest. Therefore, as currently HFO is a distinct income stream. When MSAR2 replaces HFO that to will be distinct from HDME50. I forget how many $Bn’s the global HFO market is worth, but it’s pretty big. Compared to the MGO? Well this is what Lloyds predict for the next 15 years…see pages 31-39 – theres lots of graphics to explain the fuel usage splits and the but the big one is how much ‘pink’ there is on them. ‘Pink’ represents HFO and it is not less than 50% of the market in any scenario anytime in the next 15 years… Take a look: [link] And lets not forget that this is only shipping and not including the other land based operations. It would be incredibly surprising if when any GOM (inc. Exxon) does its SWOT and PESTLE analysis, as all firms with their salt do do, that they did not identify QFI and MSAR2 as a Threat to their future business (where they produce HFO) and perhaps a Weakness if they don’t have an alternative to counter MSAR2. In which case the GOM would want to de-risk theirself. How do they do that? Develop an alternative? Takeover? Partnering? Etc… Each has its virtues and risks but each must be considered. I therefore would counter the assertion that Exxon are no longer in the running as ‘the’ GOM. I would counter bus suggesting that they most certainly are in the running as they, as others are analysing the cost-benefit) of each option and will act accordingly. I remain, as I have for the past 3 years, resolute and topping up when I can afford it. Its great to see some familiar name here and I look forward to putting faces to names at the £1 party  As always its your money and your future so be a shepherd not a sheep. DYOR Jim

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adoubleuk
10:09

RE: Cyberbub hearware, Sorry, but I think you need to do a bit of reading as well! Preferably Bogg1e's very comprehensive overview document downloadable from the shareholders' site, and not some of the nonsense posted on BBs like this. (I contribute some nonsense here, so take it from one who knows what he's talking about.) There is no reason whatsoever to suspect that anyone is 'waiting in the wings' looking to buy out QFI right now. That sort of business model worked fine in the late eighties, but doesn't now. Also I'd disagree that Exxon's new product rules them out as the potential GoM: having the two (ie MSAR2 as well) would probably be very nice for them.

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hereweare
08:45

Cyberbub I think you need to reread the posts no one saying its a competitor for MSAR2 and i'll spell it out again IMO it rules out Exxonmobil as the GOM for me thats sitting in the wings waiting to buy out QFI as Exxon are going to push this to the hilt as a more cost effective product and maybe cheaper product then MGO and looking at it the short time it will probably be very proftable for them as looking at the reports theres going to be a shortfall of MGO next year when the new rules come in next year in the ECA areas.

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cyberbub
23 Jul

HDME50 Jeez, is someone trying to revive this doubt again, after it was comprehensively demolished a few weeks ago? HDME50 is an MGO replacement, not an HFO replacement like MSAR2! HDME50/MGO is to be used in sulphur emission-control areas (ECAs) close-in to shorelines... HFO/SMAR2 will be used outside ECAs ie. 95% of the route distance for intercontinental shipping. Both groups of fuel can be used in standard engines with no modification. But HDME50/MGO costs several times HFO/MSAR2... why would shippers use the former as their main fuel?? (unless they run coastal/ECA-only routes). Intercontinental ships will simply load both groups of fuel, an expensive one to use inshore because upcoming ECA legislation enforces it, and the other to use for the 95% of the rest of the route. Seemples.

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jackg123
23 Jul

exxon [link]

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DickDoLittle
23 Jul

RE: Exxon FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 9 July 2014 ExxonMobil Premium HDME 50 ExxonMobil Launches ExxonMobil Premium HDME 50 Marine Fuel New fuel offers potential performance and safety benefits versus distillate marine gas oil “We have developed and launched ExxonMobil Premium HDME 50, a new category of low sulphur fuel, to help marine operators meet the increasingly stringent ECA rules beginning in Jan. 2015,” said Aaron Cobb, director, ExxonMobil Marine Fuels and Lubricants. “ExxonMobil Premium HDME 50 complements our existing MGO offer and enables operators to choose a fuel that meets their specific requirements.” ExxonMobil Premium HDME 50 is already in use by a range of vessel operators. It is available from Antwerp via barge delivery for vessels operating in the Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Antwerp (ARA) region. In addition, ExxonMobil continues to offer MGO at more than 40 ports worldwide. For more information about ExxonMobil Premium HDME 50, please visit www.exxonmobil.com/premiumhdme50 and ExxonMobil’s range of marine fuels, lubricants and related services, please visit www.exxonmobil.com/marine. ExxonMobil Premium HDME 50 Kinematic Viscosity, cSt @ 40°C cSt @ 50°C 25 - 45 Density @ 15°C kg/m³ 895 - 915 Cetane Index N/A CCAI 795 - 810 Sulfur Content, mass % <0.1 Flash Point, °C > 70 Hydrogen Sulfide, mg/kg < 1 Acid Number, mg KOH/g < 0.1 Total Sediment - existent, mass % < 0.01 Total Sediment - aged, mass % 0.01 Oxidation Stability, mass % < 0.01 Carbon Residue, mass % < 0.30 Pour Point, °C 9 - 15 Appearance Brown / green , opaque Water, vol % 0.05 Ash, mass % < 0.01 HFRR lubricity, microns <320 Vanadium, mg/kg < 1 Sodium, mg/kg < 1 Al + Si, mg/kg <0.3 Ca, mg/kg < 1 Zn, mg/kg < 1 No comment regarding price or savings NOx but Carbon Residue, mass 0.30 Ash, mass 0.01 Must be refined to remove sulphur so price as MGO checked Exxon mobile web site? Richard.

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Geela
23 Jul

RE Exxon Personally I think they are complementary and each has a different purpose and will probably suit different clients. But when it comes down to it bottom line will be the difference for a lot of clients and MSAR is cheaper, therefore if as an article showed last week (or so) the EU are paying towards scrubbers for some shipping Co's then MSAR along with Scrubbers will be more cost effective.

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ArgyllEagle
23 Jul

RE: Exxon Because HDME 50 is instead of MGO and MSAR2 is instead of HFO. Exmob will want a large piece of both markets if possible. Why pay royalties to QFI when they could own QFI and receive royalties from their refiner competitors? What GOM would not want to own QFI when MSAR2 takes more and more share of the HFO market?

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hereweare
23 Jul

RE: Exxon They probably will work in harmony I'm more interested in the fact that imo it rules out Exxonmobil for the GOM that has been waiting in the wings to buyout QFI as why would Exxonmobil spend x amount on the buyout of QFI when you already spent x amount on research and development of a similar fuel to MSAR although not exactly the same

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PreparationH
23 Jul

RE: Exxon So, do you think ExxonMobil are going to stop selling HFO and not want to release distillates for their low sulphur fuel? The two would work in harmony.

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hereweare
23 Jul

Exxon I know its been posted before but Exxon seem to be pushing there new HDME 50 fuel [link] sort of rules them out of been the GOM thats sitting in the wings for the takeover of QFI

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fourteenhund...
23 Jul

SueQ Seems like your trade was delayed for an hour. Quite bizarre when you consider the amount. Although today's total T/o isn't that great. ATB

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thehog2
23 Jul

Re: Pemax: game changing news ? I see that as good news for the oil business in Mexico, but Pemax itself is not being privatised, so it's culture may or may not change. Hopefully the presence of extra free market competition with have the desired effect, and they will take action to increase their output of much needed distillates by taking the logical next step.That step is of course converting to MSAR, simple really. TH2

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blind_tiger
23 Jul

Re: Scrubber Testing Results - Maersk LOL - note to self, check previous posts first!!!Back to the taverna.

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blind_tiger
23 Jul

Scrubber Testing Results - Maersk [link] on the phone so can't paste full details.GLA

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SueQ
23 Jul

Buys Coincidental or what!!! After posting a couple of mins later it appears.

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